The Star Trek Movies

[Mike McC]

I liked the original 6. The Next Generation ones are definately not as good, just like how The Next Generation series isn't as good as the original.

Now, it would be kick-ass if they put Q in a movie, but they'd probably end up fucking it up.

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

I've always thought they could just have done an entire show with Q alone. Just like I thought there was enough thought put behind the HoloDeck to fit into a 5 season show or something. Lord knows there was more thought put into the Holodeck in the few episodes it was used than most Prime Time shows ever see...

Cheap shot...but its true.

[TheZeroMan]

I would just like to take this moment to say one thing:

KKKKKKKKHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!! !!!

[Bezo]

Just for the record, and despite rumours you may have heard, Star Trek V never happened.

In fact, I don't even know what I'm referring to, all I can remember is the weird gap between IV and VI.

[Devon Lake]

Holodeck was cheap. On DS9 and Voyager, a good third of the shows involved something being wrong with the holodeck. I mean, that was just lazy writting. At least in TNG they didn't use ad nauseum.

[Mike McC]

I just prefer to forget that Voyager even existed. Well, the first couple of seasons were okay, but it just went downhill so increadibly fast....

I actually liked DS9 myself... But, that's just my opinion. None of them hold a candle to the original Star Trek.

[Bezo]

If I had been writing Next Gen, every Episode would've featured one of the following things:

1) Q

2) The Borg

3) Lore

4) A rare space disease which causes Counselor Troi to dress in a Japanese school girl uniform.

5) Riker angst about his beard

6) Q attacking the Enterprise with the Borg while Lore gives Counselor Troi a mental probe which causes her to wear a Japanese school girl uniform, causing Riker to angst about his beard.

7) Picard singing show tunes.

[Drooling Iguana]

8) The entire crew dying horrible, horrible deaths, repeatedly. Unfortunately, only one episode met that last criterion.

[Mental-Rectangle]

I just prefer to forget that Voyager even existed. Well, the first couple of seasons were okay, but it just went downhill so increadibly fast....

I find it quite the opposite. The first three seasons and the very last season of Voyager were pretty weak (the last season was specifically 7/9'ths cleavage on the holodeck day-in day-out.) (and these were the only ones people watched and knew about).

There was this really good period between that where they regularly met all eight criteria listed above. Pity really, some episodes were better than most movies they made.

The series line-up would go as follows:
The Original Series ****1/2
Voyager ***1/2
Enterprise **1/2 (if only because of the last season being much better than the previous ones.)
Next Generation ** (The last season was the only good one)
DS9 ** (also, the last season was the only good one)

For the movies: (also quite impressed with the first movie's director's cut. They did a perfect, and meticulous job finishing unfinished scenes even with dead actors.)

The Undiscovered Country ****1/2
The Motion Picture (Director's Cut) ****
First Contact (The only good TNG one) ***1/2
The Wrath of Khan ***1/2
The Voyage Home *** (more of a comedy than a sci-fi in ways, but it worked alright)
Generations *** (the first hour was good, but a bird of prey can't destroy a vastly supurior flagship, even without shields. No matter how you work it.)
Nemesis **1/2 (better graphics than Star Wars, and a semblance of plot, but it could've been more thought out, and Picard should've died in some nasty way at the end.)

The others deserve to have every copy burned, except for one, which will be stored at a Paramount themepark in the "bad idea" gift shop on display. Overall I'd say the best Star Trek movies were better than the best Star Wars movies, but the worst ones are a lot worse, and more numerous.

[Drooling Iguana]

Nemesis has better graphics that AotC? was I watching some sort of special "crappy special effects" version of Nemesis, then? The version I saw certainly didn't have better graphics than Star Wars.