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Unread 01-10-2004, 04:15 PM   #1
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Well, this is a completly random thread I know, bit I bought some of the Special Edition versions of the Star Trek movies today and started to think back to a discussion my friend and I had a few weeks ago about what the best movies were. So why don't you guys (who like the movies) put a list up of what you think are the best in order. And mention some other stuff if you like.

Mine:
1. The Undiscovered Country (VI)
2. The Wrath of Khan (II)
3. First Contact (VIII)
4. The Search for Spock (III)
5. Nemisis (X)
6. The Voyage Home (IV)
7. The Motion Picture (I)
8. Generations (VII)
9. The Final Fronteir (V)
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10. Insurrection (IX) {I put this one with spaces because in the event that any others are made, they will almost undoubtibly be better than Insurrection....sadly}
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Unread 01-10-2004, 04:28 PM   #2
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1. The Undiscovered Country
2. The Motion Picutre (Director's Edition)
3. The Wrath of Khan
4. The Voyage Home
5. Galaxy Quest
6. Forbidden Planet (sure, it doesn't say Star Trek in the title, but it's obviously a Star Trek movie. They must've just forgotten about that when they were naming it.)
7. The Search for Spock
8. The Final Frontier
9. Generations (at least the first few minutes were good, and I usually stop watching after that.)
10, 11, 12. First Contact, Insurrection, Nemesis (they were all pure crap, so it's tough to rank them.)
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Wow, someone else who actually like ST:TMP. Go figure. I had begun to believe I was the only only one.

BTW, they sure did a really nice job on the Special Edition of ST:TMP, eh? I'll admit I prefer that upgrade to the Star Wars Special Edition upgrades.
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The first version of TMP that I saw was the Director's Edition DVD, and I thought it was pretty good. After that, though, I saw the original version on TV and could see why everyone thought it sucked. It's amazing what a bit of editing and a few extra effects shots (which blended into the rest of the movie seamlessly, unlike the CGI in the Star Wars Special Editions which stood out like a sore thumb) can do for a movie.
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Best Star Trek movies:

1. Star Wars: A New Hope
2. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
3. Star Wars: The Return of the Jedi
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4. that undiscovered country thing

:P. Take that Trekkies. (/wookieroar)
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I like The Motion Picture alot. It was one of the ones I bought today (and the one I was watching when I wrote this poll). They did a fantastic job adding in the scenes. The Scenes where V-Ger is sending the Probes to circle the Earth reminded me of Independance Day with the quality of the ship (and mostly the color of the ship and the angles it was shot).

Um....but I don't know what's up with the whole Galaxy Quest and Forbidden Planet thing. I guess I'll just take it as a joke. And I'm a little perplexed how one could say Generations is better than First Contact. I can see someone not liking Nemesis and DEFINITLY not liking Insurrection, but I think First Contact is much better than Generations. But oh well, I'm not bashing your view.

And too bad people have to come into this thread bein' haters. I like Star Wars as well as Star Trek so there. Take that Haters :P (like Ih8stupidppl who is resembling a hypocrite to his own name at the moment).
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1. The Undiscovered Country
2. Wrath of Khan (KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!....what? someone was going to do it!)
3. The Voyage Home
4. The Motion Picture
5. The Final Frontier
6. Nemesis
7. First Contact
8. Search for Spock
9. Generations
10. Insurrection

It may be a bit obvious that I am less of a fan of the next generation. I just loved the original series and neither deep space nine nor the the next generation nor voyager really measure up. But I didn't like the Search for Spock, so Nemesis and First Contact get bonus points.
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It may be a bit obvious that I am less of a fan of the next generation. I just loved the original series and neither deep space nine nor the the next generation nor voyager really measure up. But I didn't like the Search for Spock, so Nemesis and First Contact get bonus points.
Aww...what's with the lack of Search for Spock love. You know Leanord Nimoy directed it, right (as well as Voyage Home)? No matter, I can understand why people might not like it as much as others since its hardly action filled and mostly the science and somewhat fantasy aspect of the series (two of the three things I like best about Star Trek). And hey, I like the Original Star Trek series and characters more than the others as well. Obviously most of it is just Kirk, Spock and McCoy and sometimes limitations on the Science can help the plot instead off adding more andmore science to create plot. But I do think the Generation movies, save Insurrection, are enjoyable.
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Meh, I suck with movie names, so I can't really list any, but I will say this... all the original is good for is comic relief to me. Now, it had a great plot, and took on serious sociological issues... the writing was superior to the new ones... but GOD how the acting sucked. Shatner is a horrible actor, and whoever played McCoy isn't much better. Nimoy is probably the only person on the cast of the original Star Trek that could act. And does Shatner have to score an alien chick every episode/movie/anything else?

Average Star Trek scene:
Kirk: "Bones... that man... needs... help walking!"
Bones: "Damnit Jim, I'm a doctor, not an escalator!"
Scotty: (over communicator) "We're under attack! She can't take much more o' this cap'n!"
Spock: *raises an eyebrow slightly* "You're all morons."

Ok, so Spock never SAID that... but you could tell he meant it. Now... the sheer comedy of watching Shatner attempt to act still makes it far better than any of the other star treks (I'd love to put the Khan scream here... but VD already did), but that doesn't mean it's good. Which is why I prefer the TNG movies... they tended to have decent plots, and the TNG cast could actually act. Although I prefer the original series... except TNG episodes with Q. But I just find Q amusing.
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Aww...what's with the lack of Search for Spock love.
It took them 40 minutes to explain the current state of Spock's soul before it actually picked up the pace, and the last half hour was equally slow. Nothing really stood out in this film as was the case for the rest. The best part was when Kirk stole the enterprise, but there were more exciting parts in all the other films.

And I do enjoy the Next Generation to a point, just not as much as the original series.
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