Mafia: Bleach

[Silly Kitty]

Vote Count

fauckneruap (9 1/2)
Ecurt
Inbred Chocobo
Nikose
Major_Blood
Demonlink2
Roy
hax mage
Cephrir
Mr.G

Roy_D_Mylote(1 1/2)
Inbred Chocobo
Arhra

Demonlink (2)
Ogianres
Newb

The Kneumatic Pnight(1)
The Kneumatic Pnight

Mesden(2)
Ecurt
Garud

Ecurt (1)
Mesden

13 TO LYNCH. NO DEADLINE YET.

[Demonlink2]

Originally Posted by Ryanderman

I'm still very suspicious of Demonlink2. He never explained his slip in post #76. He based his initial reaction to Newb's list on the assumption that Newb thought he would want Sithdarth gone. Newb only thought he was one of the people who, if scum, would want Sith gone. I think the slip shows that he is scummy, and misread Newb's post because of it.

So until he explains himself I'm going to Vote: Demonlink2

Okay, you lost me. I assumed that Newb was treating us all as scum, and now, because I defended myself, seeing as how no one else from the list adressed that post (Suspicious, yo... but I disgress), I am targeted because I defend myself. That....is the 9th stupidest thing I've heard today. Almost as dumb as Newb's vote for me on the list just because I'm the second one and Arhra was voted for by IHMN. (As seen on this link) Now, he claims it's a joke, but that is still very odd. Newb's entire list consisted of people that either feared Sith's awesomeness with numbers or experienced with numbers. Better question: Why was I on that list? That, and everyone else failed to notice this. Perhaps Newb can explain what put me on that list. Past posts, anything. Prove I'm good at this with numbers Before That Post. Until I get an answer,
unvote:whoever, even if it was Newb.
Vote: Newb.

[Silly Kitty]

I saw you guys talking about B_Real and he is on vacation and is suppose to be out until the 12th.

[Ryanderman]

Originally Posted by Demonlink2

Okay, you lost me. I assumed that Newb was treating us all as scum, and now, because I defended myself, seeing as how no one else from the list adressed that post (Suspicious, yo... but I disgress), I am targeted because I defend myself. That....is the 9th stupidest thing I've heard today. Almost as dumb as Newb's vote for me on the list just because I'm the second one and Arhra was voted for by IHMN.
Vote: Newb.

No it's not dumb. I wasn't attacking you because you defended, I was suspcious of you because of what you said when you defended yourself. But you just now said that

I assumed that Newb was treating us all as scum

and at the moment, that's good enough for me. So for now I'll Unvote: Demonlink2

alright?

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by Newb

Actually, I said only that you're not mafiate.

Yeah, that's totally not mafia killing bait, yo.

I said nothing of other scum roles. And no, by saying this, I am not saying that Mesden ain't a townie, only clarifying that I only discounted one position, not all scum positions, and saying that Ecurt has no such reading ability, so don't listen to him.

Oh man, it's a "Who can read Mesden better!" contest now, isn't it? Oh man, this is great.

But, silliness aside, Newb, don't rely so heavily on the words. The only, possible way you could be as sure as you say you are, to know that I'm definitely not a mafiate, is to be a mafiate yourself.

That's bordering slipup, Newb. What's more innocent than defending a townie throughout the game, even to her tragic lynching/nightkilling?

Playing both sides has always been popular. I did something like that in SP, remember? Yeah, of course you do!

And I did pin you with the vanilla townie and the second time you were CL, so you may want to think about just how readable you are.

Your point? I wasn't actually a 'vanilla' townie, I had a secret role, that made me cautious on who I was going to try to get lynched, because I may die with them. But that's discernable.

You got me right, twice. I'll give you that. But, Newb, remember, that means little here. I could go off about, say in Mafia SP, the only two people I ever voted for were, in fact, mafia. That's a good feat, isn't it?

Take the last game. I had the field narrowed a bit, sure, but I caught the Mafia Don without a hitch. when I talked to Ecurt, I my first thought on who was a Mafiate with him was correct.

Same game? My first during game draft was of, you guessed it, the Serial Killer.

I mean, B_Real ring a bell? I mean, a lot of people agreed with his crazy theory. I called him out on it and called him straight mafia a few times.

Mafia Basic? Though it ended bad, during game, I openly called 3 of the final 4 mafiates. CmP, Twid and SK.

That's quite a track record, right? No, not really. Just because that's apparently good, doesn't mean I'm some prodigous Scum detector. Just means I made a few good calls. That doesn't make my reasoning infallable.

So, you know, apply that to yourself, Newb. Unless you're Mafia, there's no way this reading ability is guaranteed.

Originally Posted by GARUD

As for the Mesden thing I said earlier, I'm still very suspicious. Mesden is an enigma in this game, and a definite wildcard in a game where we do not know her role. However, she is playing like she always does.

Vote: Mesden

So, wait a second. I'm a 'wildcard' because you don't know my role? Now that's just silly. Ho crap! I don't know your role, Garud.

But, that's no reason to vote for someone, I thought. I mean, could you clarify why not knowing my role in particular warrants a vote?

I think that when she stated about circular logic, she was counting on the other games to be accounted for where she and Sithdarth had wonderful debates. As true as Sithdarths numbers may help her, he is one of the only people who has really gone toe to toe with her about these issues. In this game though, it looks like Ecurt has taken it upon himself to disprove her. I feel I have to side with one of them as they both make outstanding points. However, I'm going with my gut, using Sithdarth's death as my sword and Circular logic as my shield and siding with Ecurt. I don't qustion Mesden's scuminess.

So, wait. You're saying, in the game where both me and Sith had a long, drawn out and relevantly pointless debate about playstyles, and we were both townies, is some kind of foundation?

Well, I mean, thanks for the pseudo-compliment ('wonderful debates'), but, you know, you don't have to side with anyone.

And now, you think I'm mafia for taking out Sith? Because he could stand 'toe-to-toe' with me?

Question. Out of all the times I've played this game, when has anyone ever really took me down with a lynch? I mean, Sith's smart, but actually, aside from playstyle, we tended to agree on alot, you know? Look over the game and you'll notice that, after that first silly spat that ended with a nice semi-truce, we were pretty much on good terms.

Why would I kill someone that's smart and tends to agree with me?

I'll stop there, as someone's going to pull the reverse psychology card which'll then go circular on us.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Mesden

Question. Out of all the times I've played this game, when has anyone ever really took me down with a lynch?

Question. How is that relevant?

I mean, seriously. Why ask that? Your point would have been just as solid without that included.

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Question. How is that relevant?

I mean, seriously. Why ask that? Your point would have been just as solid without that included.

He said, that, basically, I'm probably mafia for killing Sith. Why? Because Sith can stand 'toe-to-toe' with me. From what I can tell, no one has gotten me lynched of pure debating before. (Save game 1, but that was on purpose.) So, you know, no one's been able to do it, why would I be afraid of one person if they never did?

It's there to prove his sentiments a bit more illogical. It's not so much as a big point, but it's in there.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Mesden

He said, that, basically, I'm probably mafia for killing Sith. Why? Because Sith can stand 'toe-to-toe' with me. From what I can tell, no one has gotten me lynched of pure debating before. (Save game 1, but that was on purpose.) So, you know, no one's been able to do it, why would I be afraid of one person if they never did?

People without fear, pretty much by definition, are insane. You have proven yourself fully capable of coherent thought, persuasion, manipulation, and the like.

Just because they haven't succeeded in the past does not mean they are not capable of succeeding in the future. Surely you know this. It could be seen as removing a potential threat.

Granted, I believe that "Oh, Sithdarth died, so obviously Mesden's behind it because they get into a bunch of long posts I'm likely too lazy to even read, but I'll assume they're arguments so I can level this claim at her" is a bunch of bull, but I just really feel the need to point stuff like that out, ya know?

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

People without fear, pretty much by definition, are insane. You have proven yourself fully capable of coherent thought, persuasion, manipulation, and the like.

Just because they haven't succeeded in the past does not mean they are not capable of succeeding in the future. Surely you know this. It could be seen as removing a potential threat.

Granted, I believe that "Oh, Sithdarth died, so obviously Mesden's behind it because they get into a bunch of long posts I'm likely too lazy to even read, but I'll assume they're arguments so I can level this claim at her" is a bunch of bull, but I just really feel the need to point stuff like that out, ya know?

Hey, fine by me. If you think that extra part of the post was just adding too much icing on the cake, then hey, it happens sometimes, right?

That aside, I'm levelling FOS: Garud for having some unreasonable, well, reason to feel obligated to take Ecurt's side because Sith died.

And FOS: Newb since I never got around to it earlier. I mean, he's so very sure I'm not mafia, but won't 'give away' whether I'm cult or not, or the SK, I guess.

I mean, is it me, or does that drip of knowledge limited to mafia? It's not just me, right?

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Mesden

Hey, fine by me. If you think that extra part of the post was just adding too much icing on the cake, then hey, it happens sometimes, right?

Yep. Just kinda seemed... off... so I pointed it out. But you explained yourself well, so I'm not going to persue that any more. 'Cause, ya know, that'd probably get me killed.

Originally Posted by Mesden

FoS's n'stuff.

Be that as it may, I'm not going to follow suit in this particular event. I'd much rather hear their side before rushing into the potential death of a townie. I'm all nice and stuff like that! ^.^