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Unread 01-23-2009, 02:31 AM   #11
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I think the problem people have might not be in whether or not motivational posters are funny to them, but rather with the attempt to legislate the sense of humor of one or two people onto the entire forum.

I was under the impression that the funny pictures/videos thread--and it's two derivatives--was created specifically in order to allow people to post their silly pictures that x, y, and z people didn't actually want to see without disturbing anyone/thing. Beginning to legislate what kind of pictures are deemed funny, seems to nullify the entire point of said threads.

Or, in other words, if you don't enjoy the humor that a large percentage of our user base likes, you probably should just avoid the thread. That's why it's there. So you can avoid it. So what's the point of the thread, exactly, if it's NOT to keep those pictures from appearing elsewhere or to keep new threads from being created?

I'd also point out that a large number of our user base, like the entire rest of the internet, are in their teens and what may seem hackneyed and cliche to us, is still probably rather fresh to them.

As for the spoiler tags--honestly, the easiest way for me to demonstrate why they are useful to hide walls of text:

PRETEND THIS IS ALL AN INTERESTING POST BUT YOU HAVE ALREADY READ IT AND IT IS ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE. MAYBE IT IS AN LP POST FROM DFM. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE. THEY ARE ACTUALLY USUALLY TWO POSTS.

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Holy shit, I'm tired of scrolling. How about you guys?

I totally want to scroll past that every time I check for updates to that thread until the next page is up.

Totally.

'Course most of the user base can't distinguish between 'Jesus Christ that's a pain to scroll past' and just plain ole 'a lot of words'.
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Macros and motivational posters: yeah it's basically like Mirai said. If anyone ever comes and has one that actually uses the format in a new/funny/creative way rather than take a picture ahd shove it into a black frame because that's the meme du jour, I for one won't complain about it one bit. (Look at it this way, it's like reading a really funny joke somewhere and retelling it, only you twist it into a Chuck Norris joke while you retell.)

Krylo's got a good point about the pictures, but then do we really need a thread with all the pictures in it that you can find on every other internet forum? I'd rather have one that surprises me with something I didn't know every other post than one that's like "oh, another motivator, wow yawn enough image thread for today." It's less about sense of humour - a lot of the images in there now still don't make me laugh but I'm not saying a peep - than it is about avoiding tired old cliches and, I dunno, maybe getting people to expand their horizons a bit? Still, really good point, gonna think about this some more at some point.

As for the tags: what Fifth said. If anyone regularly does use too many images or some such we can still ask them not to do it individually.
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It's less about sense of humour - a lot of the images in there now still don't make me laugh but I'm not saying a peep - than it is about avoiding tired old cliches and, I dunno, maybe getting people to expand their horizons a bit? Still, really good point, gonna think about this some more at some point.
Well as I said, isn't it more of a breather ban anyway? Like, give it a few more months and it'll be lifted? Because while I understand they're annoying generally banning means they became a severe problem, and I don't think we hit that mark yet.

Like give it a few months so we don't end up with Motivational Posters being the new Chuck Norris joke on NPF and then continue as we were?
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Holy shit, I'm tired of scrolling. How about you guys?
I agree completely and utterly with this. DFM's thread is a great read, but it's sorta hard when you wanna just post a comment or a response, and you have to scroll past two or three posts that are HOLYFUCK PICTURES. It's also really annoying on Yaplet, because you can't backspace out of the thread without having to restart Yaplet. It doesn't like backspacing.

Also, maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but with the TL;DR tag, didn't it just sorta show up? You didn't really announce it, and it was never constantly mentioned/enforced. Of course, I might just be remembering wrong, I dunno.
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Ya know. If you want to scroll past an entire page, just hold Page Down for a sec or drag the slider in your scroll bar down with your mouse. Or to go past a very long post, push Page Down a few times. I don't mean to come off as condescending but you'd think everyone only ever used the mouse wheel.
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Ya know. If you want to scroll past an entire page, just hold Page Down for a sec or drag the slider in your scroll bar down with your mouse. Or to go past a very long post, push Page Down a few times. I don't mean to come off as condescending but you'd think everyone only ever used the mouse wheel.
Oh, I do. Even still, it's really annoying, especially when there's something you want to respond to in the middle of the page, between two different walls.
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Also, maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but with the TL;DR tag, didn't it just sorta show up? You didn't really announce it, and it was never constantly mentioned/enforced. Of course, I might just be remembering wrong, I dunno.
http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=751774

http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=778940

http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=29294

http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpo...29&postcount=7

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I agree completely and utterly with this. DFM's thread is a great read, but it's sorta hard when you wanna just post a comment or a response, and you have to scroll past two or three posts that are HOLYFUCK PICTURES.
I might be amenable to the view that Let's Play threads represent what I would pretty much consider the one and only instance where an image/text hide tag would actually be warranted so maybe I'll do an LP tag or something you guys can use for those.

Alternately we could just say LPs are allowed to use the Spoiler tag which wouldn't even necessarily be wrong since the whole point of a Let's Play is basically to spoil the fuck out of some entire damn game.

In fact hell you know what there you go. Let's Plays can use the spoiler tag because Let's Plays are by definition 100% spoilerrific. Bam, problem solved.
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Ya know. If you want to scroll past an entire page, just hold Page Down for a sec or drag the slider in your scroll bar down with your mouse. Or to go past a very long post, push Page Down a few times. I don't mean to come off as condescending but you'd think everyone only ever used the mouse wheel.
I was wondering that myself, but this idea hits a hiccup at LPs; They have to load all of the images, which results in using Page Down to the bottom, then it loads more, then you hit page down more, then it loads more, and it just continues on.

However with the latest of Fifth's post, bam, problem solved, so nevermind!

Other than that, agreed.
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