The Warring States of NPF  

Go Back   The Warring States of NPF > Dead threads
User Name
Password
FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Join Chat

 
View First Unread View First Unread   Click to unhide all tags.Click to hide all tags.  
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 12-02-2006, 10:58 PM   #1
Tydeus
Sent to the cornfield
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: L.A. Sprawl
Posts: 589
Tydeus will become famous soon enough. Eventually. Maybe.
Default Mercenaries for Humanity

So, I came up with this on the bus:

A non-profit, humanitarian organization, but composed of mercenaries. Getting ethnically cleansed? Give us a ring, and we'll drop by with some heavily armed and armored soldiers who'll take care of your problem. We'll sell t-shirts and writbands. It'll be great.

"Making the world safer, one bullet at a time." (slogan)

In all seriousness, the idea is pretty simple. Basically, the UN, but with bullets. We wouldn't do regime change, and we'd try our best to get the support of the UN and/or other world powers. We'd be strictly non-profit, so we'd be able to take on cases with no possibility of monetary gain, like Darfur.

Darfur is actually sort of the archetypical "job" that Mercenaries for Humanity would take. Ethnic cleansing, defenseless refugees, not regime change, defense-oriented. Janjaweed come into a village, expecting to rape and pillage, and instead find a dozen soldiers. It'd be an international force dedicated to giving people their comuppance.

Eh?
Tydeus is offline Add to Tydeus's Reputation  
Unread 12-02-2006, 11:22 PM   #2
adamark
typical college boy
 
adamark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Connecticut, USA
Posts: 1,783
adamark is reputed to be..repu..tational. Yes.
Default

You can't be a mercenary and be non-profit. A mercenary works for money, by definition.

I know of people who wanted to do something like this for Darfur (I am one of them), but in the end it's very difficult to really set it up. And you'll probably just end up as an unknown corpse in a foreign country. I'm told there are privately owned militias operating as mercenaries, but they are never sent in to protect innocent people like Darfurians. Instead they are usually paid by the US gov or by US corporations to defend US or corporate assets/interests overseas. Not fun at all :/

There are historical examples of this, look up the Abraham Lincoln Brigade that fought in the Spanish Civil War against the fascists.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grand Master Kickface
Pondered masturbation, then decided I wasn't good enough for it and decided to cry naked in the bathtub with the lights off.
adamark is offline Add to adamark's Reputation  
Unread 12-03-2006, 06:18 AM   #3
Mirai Gen
We are Geth.
 
Mirai Gen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 14,032
Mirai Gen can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Mirai Gen can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Mirai Gen can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Mirai Gen can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Mirai Gen can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Mirai Gen can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Mirai Gen can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Mirai Gen can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
Default

Well, completely ignoring the non-profit mercenary thing, it basically sounds like you're trying to incite rebellion through an anrchistic USA terrorist group.

Also: Is there a point to this thread?
__________________
Mirai Gen is offline Add to Mirai Gen's Reputation  
Unread 12-03-2006, 09:11 AM   #4
Althane
I like to move it move it!
 
Althane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hell
Posts: 850
Althane is reputed to be..repu..tational. Yes.
Default

Technically, being a mercenary is illegal under law.

However, I have entertained the idea of starting a mercenary company (assuming I could get funding) for various reasons. Overall, if I ran it, it would fight, for money, for the side that I thought to be ethically right.

Of course, now this means that I can be attacked (politically) for fighting what I believe to be right. >_>
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prophie X on drinking
Part of being a good IT professional is recognizing the need to kill off weaker brain cells
Althane is offline Add to Althane's Reputation  
Unread 12-03-2006, 11:18 AM   #5
42PETUNIAS
helloooo!
 
42PETUNIAS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: The Court
Posts: 2,816
42PETUNIAS is a glorious beacon of painfully blinding light. 42PETUNIAS is a glorious beacon of painfully blinding light.
Send a message via AIM to 42PETUNIAS Send a message via MSN to 42PETUNIAS Send a message via Skype™ to 42PETUNIAS
Default

It sounds solid, but the idea of mercenaries to help the people never really helps the world. you'd probably just end up being seen as another conflicting group, and would be disliked by the U.N. and major countries, despite whatever good you were hoping to bring to the world.
__________________
noooo! why are you doing that?!
42PETUNIAS is offline Add to 42PETUNIAS's Reputation  
Unread 12-03-2006, 11:37 AM   #6
Bells
That's so PC of you
 
Bells's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless
Posts: 10,490
Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay! Bells slew the jabberwocky! Callooh! Callay!
Send a message via MSN to Bells Send a message via Skype™ to Bells
Default

Actually... sounded a little like Klu Klux Klan....
__________________
BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear them!

Bells is offline Add to Bells's Reputation  
Unread 12-03-2006, 12:01 PM   #7
P-Sleazy
Can Summon Sparkles by Posing!
 
P-Sleazy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kinging it up!
Posts: 2,339
P-Sleazy is so pumped up.
Send a message via AIM to P-Sleazy
Default

You're also forgetting that you're gonna need some kind of training in your trade if you want to even be considered as an option for people to hire. LOTS and LOTS of training. Then you're also gonna need to have a bunch of permits to take your weapons across borders, or atleast find out where or who you can buy weapons from in said country. After that theres also the body armor that you might want to invest in. More training. Lots of people, You can't just go in with a few tens of people to protect a couple thousands. You'll be straining yourselves to thinly, not to mention you'll need to do shifts so everyone can sleep. More training from specialists. Then finally, you'll need some financial backing to start you up in the first place so you can become trained and armed and armored.

So thats a bit of the logistics you'll need to think about. Theres probably LOTS more than that still.
__________________
The King is your new master now.

Totally returning for the Summer: a mafia Game: Sign ups HERE!
P-Sleazy is offline Add to P-Sleazy's Reputation  
Unread 12-03-2006, 12:18 PM   #8
Sky Warrior Bob
bOB iZ brOkeN
 
Sky Warrior Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: It's a nice place to visit...
Posts: 3,755
Sky Warrior Bob is a splendid one to behold, except in the mornings. Sky Warrior Bob is a splendid one to behold, except in the mornings. Sky Warrior Bob is a splendid one to behold, except in the mornings.
Default

If something like this went down, I don't see it working out well. Basically, what I forsee happening, is a number of people who join up with this sort of thing, do so entirely on the premise of being violent. People who don't take issue with killing another person, just as long as they've got an excuse.

Problem with that, is that it could easily get out of hand. People like that could easily start killing for the sake of killing, and that can easily happen if the situation devolves even a little bit.

Plus, what is the advantage of having it be a independent armed force, and not just the military to begin with? And why would it hold any more attraction than such legitimate established forces? I mean, I suppose if the UN started taking on volunteers to consist its troops, that could make some sense. But it'd still be the UN Armed Forces & not this Mercenary group you're thinking of.

SWB
__________________
:bmage: Because breakdancing is evil, and so am I, you will click on this link:

You are in error. No one is screaming. Thank you for your cooperation.
Yes I know the breakdancing BM link doesn't work, and I don't care.
Sky Warrior Bob is offline Add to Sky Warrior Bob's Reputation  
Unread 12-03-2006, 02:44 PM   #9
Krylo
The Straightest Shota
 
Krylo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: It's a secret to everybody.
Posts: 17,789
Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat]. Krylo is [censored for Unusual use of a goat].
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky Warrior Bob
Plus, what is the advantage of having it be a independent armed force, and not just the military to begin with?
A lack of political responsibility. As a mercenary force pledging allegiance to no country, you don't have to worry about the world political spectrum. You just go in, be violent, and leave. No need to pass it through congress. No need to worry about sending people off to die who may not be willing. No need to worry about how the people back home are going to react. No need to worry about international politics. You just do it.
Quote:
I mean, I suppose if the UN started taking on volunteers to consist its troops, that could make some sense. But it'd still be the UN Armed Forces & not this Mercenary group you're thinking of.
See above, and then add onto that the fact that dictorial countries ARE in the UN and get their votes as to where the UN goes. I don't know if Darfur is, exactly, but I know many of the dictorial regimes in the middle east and northern africa which commit such atrocities do, infact, have UN seats. Which is why the UN is basically castrated to do anything about dictatorships.

I mean, I agree that it's basically as fruitless idea, and there's far too many problems, and you're going to need a lot of money to start, and how do you screen applicants? etc. etc. However... I can see the draw of the idea.
__________________
Krylo is offline Add to Krylo's Reputation  
Unread 12-04-2006, 02:20 PM   #10
Loyal
Making it happen.
 
Loyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Someplace. Probably here.
Posts: 7,879
Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare. Loyal has indicated, by your reading this, that they are now President and you have to fart gourmet mustard arugula into your Obamacare.
Send a message via AIM to Loyal Send a message via MSN to Loyal Send a message via Skype™ to Loyal
Default

For purposes of clarification, the organization shall henceforth in this post be referred to as the Freelance Police Army, or FPA.

This sounds kinda like the idea for Command and Conquer's GDI: A military force, essentially the global police force, is dispatched by world leaders to take care of major conflicts as an independant army, not commissioned by the countries fighting themselves.

Of course, then there's the matter of Nod popping up, but seeing as the FPA would be a purely mercenary force, nobody's going to rally impovershed, third-world countries into a massive guerrila superpower under the banner of overthrowing the upright, corrupt governments and their pet army.

However, even if the FPA was approved by the UN in general, dictators and others with reason to fear being overrun would undoubtedly try to disband it, through legal tribunals or outright force.

Armies would be dispatched "by coincidence" to where the FPA is doing their most recent job, on the other side for loosely veiled reasons. Counter-mercenary armies would rise up, funded by the FPA's enemies. The 'good guys' (meaning those who would support the FPA's actions) may or may not, directly or indirectly, back the FPA in its efforts.

Either way, unless the FPA was disbanded, there would probably be a third world war... but that's just my theory.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreus, Dwarf Fortress Community Overseer
I have no idea where anything is. I have no idea what anything does. This is not merely a madhouse designed by a madman, but a madhouse designed by many madmen, each with an intense hatred for the previous madman's unique flavour of madness.
Tumblr. Twitter. Feel free to follow.
3DS Friend Code: 4441-8226-8387

Loyal is offline Add to Loyal's Reputation  
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:52 PM.
The server time is now 12:52:05 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.