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Are you with Coco?
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Paul Reiser weighs in to remind folks that Jay Leno is not evil.
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01-16-2010, 06:23 PM | #2 | |
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I don't know if we should expect anything more -- it's all a business, ethical or compassionate behavior isn't the norm in the industry -- but I just keep imagining to myself the following hypothetical: if Letterman had stayed on NBC with the Tonight Show and the circumstances were exactly the same, with O'Brien replacing Letterman instead of Leno as Tonight Show host in '09, what would have happened? And I just can't imagine Letterman behaving in the same way -- I don't think he'd have taken the 10:00pm slot, I don't think he'd betray the history of the Tonight Show by screwing up the timetables, I don't think he'd stab Conan in the back with the same carelessness that Leno's displayed here. (What irritates me about Leno is really that I hate him as a comedian, so I can't understand why most the country seems to love him and he gets all his preferential treatment. It's comparable to how I'd feel if Dreamworks animated movies were repeatedly more popular than, and more critically beloved, than Pixar's offerings. I just can't understand it. Craig Ferguson is my favorite of the Late Night crew -- watch his show, it's absolutely hysterical -- followed by O'Brien, with Letterman a ways behind. But all of them, and really even Jimmy Kimmel, are leagues ahead of Leno in my book.) But as for "What team I'm on?" Consider me on Team Haiti. It's fun to discuss these Late Night shenanigans because in the end, no one's really getting hurt -- even O'Brien will make millions of dollars and find another network for him and his staff. But what's going on in Haiti is what more Americans should be talking about, as opposed to these late night antics or "Pants on the Ground" or the NFL playoffs or Avatar or Simon Cowell leaving American Idol. Good luck convincing the majority of the American public that, though. We're truly spoiled citizens living in a privileged country that's effectively using entertainment to deceive ourselves and isolate us from everything that's really happening in the world.
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In Leno's defense, he has been very flexible with what the network wants, apparently for a long time, and in certain situations this can be a good trait and he has most certainly benefited from an affable relationship with his bosses. Dick Ebersol , though being pretty unfair to Conan in balming the ratings on him when in reality the entire network isn't doing well, is willing to take the heat for the decision.
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01-16-2010, 06:54 PM | #4 |
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Well Snake, there is this pro-Coco benefit for Haiti going on. Found out about it while I was trying to track down this .
From this pro-Conan site. Personally, I'm not a fan of either Jay or Conan, as I don't follow late night. Still, it doesn't take a genius to see that NBC has botched the handling of this. SWB
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01-16-2010, 08:53 PM | #5 |
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I've always enjoyed Conan a lot more than Leno. I never watch Leno, and I can't believe NBC didn't think that the Jay Leno show would get horrible ratings in comparison to shows on other networks that are on in the same time slot, at 10:00. I never thought it was going to compete with the latest Without a Trace or You Think You Can Dance or whatever crap is on FOX and CBS. Why did the people at NBC, who are supposed to be far more knowledgeable about ratings? It's simply common sense that it wouldn't beat those other shows out of viewers who enjoy regular TV shows far more than late night comedy, and would lose viewers during that time period to other fare in lieu of having a strong Law and Order show on at that time.
It's sad that Conan AND Leno are put in this position for what was basically a really bad idea from some network execs, though I don't know why Leno didn't think that his show would garner bad ratings as well. Hubris or arrogance, maybe? Also, what's up with the Jay Leno show's proposed half-hour time slot, is it going to compete with the Colbert Report? I doubt it. He'll barely have time for a monologue and maybe a ten minute chat with a guest with only half an hour.
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01-16-2010, 09:03 PM | #6 |
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Actually, The Jay Leno Show was preforming exactly how they had predicted. The problem is that it had an unexpected effect, in that it was lowering the ratings of the local news and any later programs on the network.
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01-16-2010, 09:16 PM | #7 |
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So some people were actually staying up that late just to watch Jay Leno when he was on the Tonight Show? Please, people, just get a good night's rest, it'll benefit you way more than watching late night TV just for the sake of watching late night TV.
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01-16-2010, 09:22 PM | #8 |
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Jay Leno's comedy is safe and inoffensive, palatable (if not all that interesting) to a wide demographic.
He is homogenized talk show host for the masses.
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I personally like Leno because he's clean. I like him better than Letterman because he's also friendly. He's the guy with the chin and he's got a bounding charisma that I feel other late night people lack, although I won't put him above Ferguson. The two are both good on their own merits.
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01-16-2010, 11:40 PM | #10 |
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Like I said, safe and inoffensive.
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