Let's Save Capcom: Make a Case for their games

Bells · 07-29-2010, 07:42 AM

So, i just heard that Capcom's Profits are down 90% for April to June quarter.

That's pretty harsh for a Company that sells some of the leading brands on the market. Sure, nothing they can't get around with the next Street Fighter or Megaman Game...

But i wanted to make a case for the forgotten IP's... I mean, today, all companies seem to be driving the same direction with their games and re-using the same Franchises and characters. I'm not even talking about the over saturation of Zombies and World War 2 and Nazis... heck, Even Harry Potter went "Gears"!

When was the last time a big company pitched a new concept instead of a new feature for an old idea? Sure, safe bets and brand name equals money... can't deny a company it's right to make profit... but they are not.

So, i bring 3 examples of how Capcom could be Making money right now.

1- New Rival Schools / Project Justice game.

Really. I'm yet to see someone who doesn't think this is a good idea. People want it. The Fighting games market is clogged with the same very few franchises being resold and nothing new (and good) has popped around in Ages. At least with Rival Schools you are bringing back that still has room to grow. A lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjfFw4NwqmQ

Plus, the game is just awesome, what the hell is wrong with you!? making me explain the obvious... sheesh.

2- New Breath of Fire.

Rght up to Breath of Fire 4, Capcom had one of the Best names in Classic RPG's with it's own Unique Twist, nice characters and storytelling. 5 (dragon Quarter) seems to have almost killed the whole franchise, because it wasn't very well praised and that was the last we heard of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pd2ewENyPs

Unlike several other genres, new Franchises try to pop on RPG ground every now and then. And there is always room for something like Breath of Fire. Specially if it kepts the same ideas it had going on for 3 and 4.

3- New Dino Crisis Game.

C'mon. You want to go Camp on me? You need a quick cash and you want to enjoy the fact that people will pay up for a Resident Evil clone where you are running from god damn dinosaurs... this -IS- the franchise waiting to come back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNw58nU-p1Q

So, yeah... Megaman, Viewtifull Joe, Street Fighter... all of those Sell. But what about a little change for once?

Aerozord · 07-29-2010, 09:39 AM

Isn't Dead Rising 2 coming out soon? That should help

Bells · 07-29-2010, 09:53 AM

Yeah. Actually Dead Rising falls in a grey area between "New stuff that needs to be out there" and "more of the same", my only experience with the franchise is the Wii version. Which to be honest felt a lot like "awesome by concept, bland by execution".

I mean, i got the same drive i had with Madworld (maybe a "lite" version of it) but the Plot in Dead Rising was much more interesting to me than Madworld's.

In the end i just really want to see Capcom bringing back some of these old names.

Kim · 07-29-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bells

Yeah. Actually Dead Rising falls in a grey area between "New stuff that needs to be out there" and "more of the same", my only experience with the franchise is the Wii version. Which to be honest felt a lot like "awesome by concept, bland by execution".

IIRC everyone said the Xbox version was great but the Wii version sucked, so if your only experience with the game is the Wii version that's not a good basis to judge it by.

Bells · 07-29-2010, 11:25 AM

Is the only real difference the number of Zombies on the screen? Because, it was graphically okay, sound was decent, controls work, the content of a full game is in there... i can't judge it by what is not there, but it works just fine... the only difference is that 15 zombies on the screen is "a lot" in this version

Jagos · 07-29-2010, 11:26 AM

1) Strider needs a new game

2) Bring back a balance Tohshinden - You now are the master of 2D. Work on 3D and compete with Namco!

3) Power Stone - Party games are still popular. Maybe make this one a Wii title

4) Rival Schools (personal request)

5) Breath of Fire - YES, we want a new one. NO, we don't want a friggin randomized dungeon! GET IT RIGHT, Capcom!

6) Auto Modelista - Yes, Cel Shaded Car Racing. NO, we don't need to hit the darn guard rail to go faster than normal! >_<

7) Dead Phoenix needs resurrection

8) Shooters. NEED MORE

9) Mecha RPG. Just throwin that out there...

10) Ok... Either let the Blue Bomber go or finish his story and move on. Make up your damn mind. Rock and X need to meet up or the newest one needs to be about how Zero destroys the world.

Kim · 07-29-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bells

the only difference is that 15 zombies on the screen is "a lot" in this version

That's actually a pretty big deal considering that the selling point of the game was murdering lots of zombies in fun ways, and it's just not the same without the "lot" in there.

Oh yeah and they cut out the photography.

Bells · 07-29-2010, 11:45 AM

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3) Power Stone - Party games are still popular. Maybe make this one a Wii title

OH! Hell yeah! Totally forgot! Imagine 4 vs 4 or 8 man rumble online matches... bring the Power Stone crew and put in a buttload of Capcom cameos and this would easily become Capcom's Smash Bros, and be good at it!

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Oh yeah and they cut out the photography.

Yeah, that one i have to give... my Inner Pokemon Snap fan was pissed off with that one.

bluestarultor · 07-29-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jagos

10) Ok... Either let the Blue Bomber go or finish his story and move on. Make up your damn mind. Rock and X need to meet up or the newest one needs to be about how Zero destroys the world.

I disagree with this. Mega Man is pretty much a symbol of Capcom's ability to innovate and evolve. Every game of the main series added something new (in my limited experience (much of which comes from seeing a run-through of the Anniversary Collection and reading the wiki)). It changed as technology changed, and while the merits of that are often debated in the main line, for the most part, a look at X says they were capable of doing it well.

Heck, even when the series is failing, it's still doing good things. Legends was such a failure that they couldn't afford to keep making them, but if it's anything like The Misadventures of Tron Bonne, it couldn't have been that bad.

I just don't see the point of ending the main series for the sake of appeasing fans who want it finally connected with X. Especially when they now offer very different styles of play for different audiences. The two series have a massive time lapse between them. Enough you can fill in your own blanks. Honestly, I think the imagination can provide you with a much more satisfying link than anything Capcom could ever write, because the canon link is never going to please everyone.

A Zarkin' Frood · 07-29-2010, 01:02 PM

I want to see a new Demon's Crest, which was part of the Gargoyle's Quest series. Which was a spin-off of Ghouls n' Goblins. Okay, the Gargoyle games weren't very successful, to my knowledge, even though the last one was pretty awesome, but I think the time for a new game where you control a fire breathing demon who headbutts statues and can transform into different versions of himself is here.
Hell, Capcom could make whatever they wanted out of that and could just sell it as something new. Make the jump from 2D Metroadvania to 3D whatever.

07-29-2010, 07:42 AM	#1
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Let's Save Capcom: Make a Case for their games So, i just heard that Capcom's Profits are down 90% for April to June quarter. That's pretty harsh for a Company that sells some of the leading brands on the market. Sure, nothing they can't get around with the next Street Fighter or Megaman Game... But i wanted to make a case for the forgotten IP's... I mean, today, all companies seem to be driving the same direction with their games and re-using the same Franchises and characters. I'm not even talking about the over saturation of Zombies and World War 2 and Nazis... heck, Even Harry Potter went "Gears"! When was the last time a big company pitched a new concept instead of a new feature for an old idea? Sure, safe bets and brand name equals money... can't deny a company it's right to make profit... but they are not. So, i bring 3 examples of how Capcom could be Making money right now. 1- New Rival Schools / Project Justice game. Really. I'm yet to see someone who doesn't think this is a good idea. People want it. The Fighting games market is clogged with the same very few franchises being resold and nothing new (and good) has popped around in Ages. At least with Rival Schools you are bringing back that still has room to grow. A lot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjfFw4NwqmQ Plus, the game is just awesome, what the hell is wrong with you!? making me explain the obvious... sheesh. 2- New Breath of Fire. Rght up to Breath of Fire 4, Capcom had one of the Best names in Classic RPG's with it's own Unique Twist, nice characters and storytelling. 5 (dragon Quarter) seems to have almost killed the whole franchise, because it wasn't very well praised and that was the last we heard of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pd2ewENyPs Unlike several other genres, new Franchises try to pop on RPG ground every now and then. And there is always room for something like Breath of Fire. Specially if it kepts the same ideas it had going on for 3 and 4. 3- New Dino Crisis Game. C'mon. You want to go Camp on me? You need a quick cash and you want to enjoy the fact that people will pay up for a Resident Evil clone where you are running from god damn dinosaurs... this -IS- the franchise waiting to come back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNw58nU-p1Q So, yeah... Megaman, Viewtifull Joe, Street Fighter... all of those Sell. But what about a little change for once? __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

07-29-2010, 09:39 AM	#2
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	Isn't Dead Rising 2 coming out soon? That should help __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

07-29-2010, 09:53 AM	#3
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Yeah. Actually Dead Rising falls in a grey area between "New stuff that needs to be out there" and "more of the same", my only experience with the franchise is the Wii version. Which to be honest felt a lot like "awesome by concept, bland by execution". I mean, i got the same drive i had with Madworld (maybe a "lite" version of it) but the Plot in Dead Rising was much more interesting to me than Madworld's. In the end i just really want to see Capcom bringing back some of these old names. __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

07-29-2010, 11:25 AM	#5
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Is the only real difference the number of Zombies on the screen? Because, it was graphically okay, sound was decent, controls work, the content of a full game is in there... i can't judge it by what is not there, but it works just fine... the only difference is that 15 zombies on the screen is "a lot" in this version __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

07-29-2010, 11:26 AM	#6
Jagos FRONT KICK OF DOOM! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Howdy pardner... Posts: 6,399	1) Strider needs a new game 2) Bring back a balance Tohshinden - You now are the master of 2D. Work on 3D and compete with Namco! 3) Power Stone - Party games are still popular. Maybe make this one a Wii title 4) Rival Schools (personal request) 5) Breath of Fire - YES, we want a new one. NO, we don't want a friggin randomized dungeon! GET IT RIGHT, Capcom! 6) Auto Modelista - Yes, Cel Shaded Car Racing. NO, we don't need to hit the darn guard rail to go faster than normal! >_< 7) Dead Phoenix needs resurrection 8) Shooters. NEED MORE 9) Mecha RPG. Just throwin that out there... 10) Ok... Either let the Blue Bomber go or finish his story and move on. Make up your damn mind. Rock and X need to meet up or the newest one needs to be about how Zero destroys the world. __________________ Copyright musings World ramblings Scifi stories

07-29-2010, 01:02 PM	#10
A Zarkin' Frood formerly known as Prince. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Right here, with you >:) Posts: 2,395	I want to see a new Demon's Crest, which was part of the Gargoyle's Quest series. Which was a spin-off of Ghouls n' Goblins. Okay, the Gargoyle games weren't very successful, to my knowledge, even though the last one was pretty awesome, but I think the time for a new game where you control a fire breathing demon who headbutts statues and can transform into different versions of himself is here. Hell, Capcom could make whatever they wanted out of that and could just sell it as something new. Make the jump from 2D Metroadvania to 3D whatever. __________________ >:( C-: