"Let's Talk About Time Travel" or "That One Doctor Who Bit Where They Did It Wrong"

Seil · 07-18-2011, 06:02 PM

So there's been Time Travel in a bunch of stuff - Bender's Big Score, Harry Potter And Hermione's Magical MacGuffin, The Prince Of Persia - and each one has their own cleary established rules. Or not - sometimes, they just wing it.

That being said, you cannae bring up time travel and not mention Doctor Who. Now, it's usually pretty good about it... save for episodes like "Fathers Day," where Rose saves her dad from being hit by a car and Eccleston gets eaten by a gargoyle or whatever. I like the show, and I'm okay with them taking some liberties - it's their show. But there's that one bit that bugs me: The End Of Time.

Let me tell you a little bit about the end of time, Tennant's last episode: The Doctor goes to visit the Ood, who tell him The Master is returning. The Master gets resurrected, and ends up changing the biology of every person on Earth, turning them into copies of himself. With all those copies, he figures out that the drumming in his head has been the work of the Time Lord President, James Bond. James Bond and the rest of the Time Lords are time locked in the Time War because of the Doctor, and Bond devises a plan to get them out. However, their plan, once they escape with the help of the Master, is to end time. The Doctor stops them, and survives, but ends up having to save Wilf, gets radiated to bejesus, and has a long, tearful goodbye scene, yadda yadda yadda. The thing is, when the Doctor hears that (spoiler) the Master is ressurecting, he rushes to the prison. Don't act like he didn't know where it was, the TARDIS lands just outside of the joint.

He's got a bloody time machine, and they make it into a big , tense moment where 'He's got to hurry, the Master is reviving!" No he doesn't! He's got a time machine, he wasn't part of events at that point, he could've walked to the TARDIS and gone a week earlier and been on time. But he doesn't, because that's not dramatic and exciting and intense enough.(end spoiler)

Flarecobra · 07-18-2011, 06:43 PM

Keep in mind, the TARDIS is intelligent, and living. And it's not as exact as The Doctor would like.

Magus · 07-18-2011, 06:55 PM

Best Time Travel movie was Millennium because it just did not give a fuck. If you were unaware, in the film time travelers from the future travel into the past and kidnap passengers off of airplane flights that were doomed to crash so they can repopulate the future, which is a shithole. This helps prevent time paradoxes. Unfortunately the change something or other in the past which causes "time quakes" in the future, which basically seem precisely like regular earthquakes (shaking camera and falling styrofoam and all). So the paraplegic wheelchair-bound scientist leader who had been sending rescuers back hurries up and sends all humans (which I guess was everybody in the building), into the far distant future where they'll be safe from the time quakes and can repopulate the earth.

Overcast · 07-18-2011, 07:01 PM

Which of course made more time quakes.

Seil · 07-18-2011, 07:09 PM

...Time quakes?

Magus · 07-18-2011, 07:12 PM

Time quakes are earthquakes...that travel through time!

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 07-19-2011, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magus

Time quakes are earthquakes...that travel through time!

As a fan of all things involving time travel, I have absolutely no problem with this concept.

07-18-2011, 06:02 PM	#1
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	"Let's Talk About Time Travel" or "That One Doctor Who Bit Where They Did It Wrong" So there's been Time Travel in a bunch of stuff - Bender's Big Score, Harry Potter And Hermione's Magical MacGuffin, The Prince Of Persia - and each one has their own cleary established rules. Or not - sometimes, they just wing it. That being said, you cannae bring up time travel and not mention Doctor Who. Now, it's usually pretty good about it... save for episodes like "Fathers Day," where Rose saves her dad from being hit by a car and Eccleston gets eaten by a gargoyle or whatever. I like the show, and I'm okay with them taking some liberties - it's their show. But there's that one bit that bugs me: The End Of Time. Let me tell you a little bit about the end of time, Tennant's last episode: The Doctor goes to visit the Ood, who tell him The Master is returning. The Master gets resurrected, and ends up changing the biology of every person on Earth, turning them into copies of himself. With all those copies, he figures out that the drumming in his head has been the work of the Time Lord President, James Bond. James Bond and the rest of the Time Lords are time locked in the Time War because of the Doctor, and Bond devises a plan to get them out. However, their plan, once they escape with the help of the Master, is to end time. The Doctor stops them, and survives, but ends up having to save Wilf, gets radiated to bejesus, and has a long, tearful goodbye scene, yadda yadda yadda. The thing is, when the Doctor hears that (spoiler) the Master is ressurecting, he rushes to the prison. Don't act like he didn't know where it was, the TARDIS lands just outside of the joint. He's got a bloody time machine, and they make it into a big , tense moment where 'He's got to hurry, the Master is reviving!" No he doesn't! He's got a time machine, he wasn't part of events at that point, he could've walked to the TARDIS and gone a week earlier and been on time. But he doesn't, because that's not dramatic and exciting and intense enough.(end spoiler)

07-18-2011, 06:43 PM	#2
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	Keep in mind, the TARDIS is intelligent, and living. And it's not as exact as The Doctor would like. __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

07-18-2011, 06:55 PM	#3
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Best Time Travel movie was Millennium because it just did not give a fuck. If you were unaware, in the film time travelers from the future travel into the past and kidnap passengers off of airplane flights that were doomed to crash so they can repopulate the future, which is a shithole. This helps prevent time paradoxes. Unfortunately the change something or other in the past which causes "time quakes" in the future, which basically seem precisely like regular earthquakes (shaking camera and falling styrofoam and all). So the paraplegic wheelchair-bound scientist leader who had been sending rescuers back hurries up and sends all humans (which I guess was everybody in the building), into the far distant future where they'll be safe from the time quakes and can repopulate the earth. __________________ The Valiant Review

07-18-2011, 07:01 PM	#4
Overcast Cinderella Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Trespassing in the graveyard Posts: 3,076	Which of course made more time quakes. __________________ Time to bust out the glow sticks!

07-18-2011, 07:12 PM	#6
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Time quakes are earthquakes...that travel through time! __________________ The Valiant Review

07-18-2011, 07:09 PM	#5
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	...Time quakes?