CNN gets it wrong

[shiney]

So, ObamaCare, as it will forever be known thanks to a failed attempt at messaging - is deemed constitutional as a whole. Some tricky legal maneuvering regarding the validity of the individual mandate, and some intrigue in that Roberts swung opposite of his traditional leanings in support of the law.

But the real story? CNN was so hyped up to be the first to report the story that they got it perfectly and completely wrong.

Idiots.



So, nice work Obama administration, and really nice work, CNN.

[Pip Boy]

All the pictures of rejoicing protestors glad to hear about the mandate go down kind of make them look like jackasses now that the mandate didn't go down.

[Bells]

Meanwhile........

[Solid Snake]

Maybe it's just the lawyer in me, but what's fascinating for me personally is exactly what has happened to Chief Justice John Roberts in recent days that have swung him so far astray from his political leanings in the last two major Supreme Court decisions.

Hell, Roberts swung further left than Kennedy, and everyone assumed that Kennedy was Obama's only hope of upholding the bill.

And I mean, as much as I hate to say it, Fox News almost has a point, at least regarding the Obama Administration's staunch refusal to characterize the Health Care system as a 'tax' (because the word 'tax' has severe consequences in regards to voter popularity), and Roberts and the majority here ruling that the law can and should be upheld as the legal equivalent of a 'tax.'
Utterly fascinating. I never would have predicted this outcome. I thought there was a chance the law would be upheld, but I thought Kennedy, and certainly not Roberts, would be its savior.

So did someone find Roberts' 'humanity' button and reprogram him? Is this an indication that Roberts is going to pull a Souter, betray his perceived Republican principles and gradually join the Dems in future decisions? Or is this just some strange aberration? There's ways you could construe Roberts' recent turns within the paradigm of his own ideological platform -- it just requires a fair deal of stretching.
Since Roberts has always been considered a 'big government' kind of Republican, it's feasible that he just wants to retain as much Executive and Congressional powers as possible so that the right-wing can eventually get away with their own social engineering experiments under the same rubric.

...But still, man. Everyone's scratching their heads over this one.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Fuck you fucking fuck shit piss crap kill piss.

What the hell is so terrible about paying a little for your own well-being? Germany is only a pseudo socialist country but guess what's in our fucking constitution. Healthcare.

I mean, yeah, I'm glad it didn't get shot down. By some jerkasses.

It's just the kind of thing I don't get. Why would you oppose something like this? Or is this some weird way to make the poor die out because they can't afford their health related bills? I think the last thing a government and it's people should want are, well, dead people. Or severely sick/crippled/whatever people who need all kinds of care beyond normal health care.

I have no idea how health care will work in the US but in Germany (roughly) half of the health care is paid by the employer (or the the government in case of unemployment) of the insured the rest by the insured themselves. Seems okay in my book. Oh wait, that's what's actually happening, right? And since the U.S. are largely a corporate state a lot of people who hate life or love their money a little too much complain. Well damn.

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by A Zarkin' Frood

Fuck you fucking fuck shit piss crap kill piss.

What the hell is so terrible about paying a little for your own well-being? Germany is only a pseudo socialist country but guess what's in our fucking constitution. Healthcare.

I mean, yeah, I'm glad it didn't get shot down. By some jerkasses.

It's just the kind of thing I don't get. Why would you oppose something like this?

...Is this directed at me, specifically?
Because nothing I stated earlier should have been interpreted as a statement against the health care law.

[CABAL49]

I think he was just expressing frustration at the opponents of Obamacare. Not everything is about you David Hayter.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Pip Boy

All the pictures of rejoicing protestors glad to hear about the mandate go down kind of make them look like jackasses now that the mandate didn't go down.

It kind of seemed like they looked like jackasses the whole time to me.

[Loyal]

Originally Posted by A Zarkin' Frood

Fuck you fucking fuck shit piss crap kill piss.

What the hell is so terrible about paying a little for your own well-being? Germany is only a pseudo socialist country but guess what's in our fucking constitution. Healthcare.

I mean, yeah, I'm glad it didn't get shot down. By some jerkasses.

It's just the kind of thing I don't get. Why would you oppose something like this? Or is this some weird way to make the poor die out because they can't afford their health related bills? I think the last thing a government and it's people should want are, well, dead people. Or severely sick/crippled/whatever people who need all kinds of care beyond normal health care.

I have no idea how health care will work in the US but in Germany (roughly) half of the health care is paid by the employer (or the the government in case of unemployment) of the insured the rest by the insured themselves. Seems okay in my book. Oh wait, that's what's actually happening, right? And since the U.S. are largely a corporate state a lot of people who hate life or love their money a little too much complain. Well damn.

(A) The only thing these people care about is their personal wealth, and leaving their immediate family comfortable. They simply do not consider the masses a factor worthy of their consideration, and certainly don't care about things like the stability of the economy or the prospects of our future after they're dead.

(B) This bill has become emblematic of Obama, and since his election the Republicans, with no exaggeration, made it their single unifying goal to ensure that Obama was defeated at every turn, so that he looks weak in 2012. They have even attempted to bury bills, introduced by themselves, after they were approved by Obama.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

...Is this directed at me, specifically?
Because nothing I stated earlier should have been interpreted as a statement against the health care law.

It has nothing to do with you, just a general fuck you to opponents of health care. Which aren't in this Forum. I hope. Anyway, yeah, it was basically a coincidence my post was directly under yours.

EDIT: I can see why starting a post with a "Fuck you" followed by an incoherent string of swears would make you believe it's maybe directed at you when it's the post following yours. But you have mostly okay political opinions.