You know what I loved about Age of Ultron

Aerozord · 07-23-2015, 06:00 PM

The thing I liked best about Avengers 2 is Ultron's plan is really stupid. It is such a wonderfully over complicated pointless mess of a plan. This is like Cobra Commander levels of convoluted and complete mismanagement of resources. In other words its a super villain plot

Spoilers ahead, all the warning you get. After I processed the movie for abit I thought about his plan and realized all the more efficient ways he had to kill people. Bioengineered super virus or nerve gas are both well within his ability to make. If he couldn't get the launch codes for nukes there was still nothing stopping him from breaking into a place, physically taking them and having his drones fly them to the target.

Then we get to his actual plan which again was pointless. The energy released from lifting up and slamming a huge chunk of earth into the planet is exactly the same as if you just detonated the fuel source on the ground.

This might sound like nitpicking but actually I love this. His plan wasn't about the most economical or reliable method of murdering humanity. He just really wanted to smash an asteroid into the planet. Thats ok, thats how super villains should be. Because if they aren't like that then writers can't justify them having a volcano lair in the shape of their head and I don't want to live in a world where comic book villains dont have skull fortresses that weep lava

Bard The 5th LW · 07-24-2015, 02:00 AM

The thing I didnt love about Age of Ultron was the part where the Hulk and Iron Man ~~kill like a million~~ like several thousand people in that one African City and suffer no repercussions ever and dont even seem to feel that bad about it when the movie's finally done.

Bum Bill Bee · 07-24-2015, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

The thing I didnt love about Age of Ultron was the part where the Hulk and Iron Man ~~kill like a million~~ like several thousand people in that one African City and suffer no repercussions ever and dont even seem to feel that bad about it when the movie's finally done.

Wow, and people call ME sociopathic :P

Marc v4.0 · 07-24-2015, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerozord

The thing I liked best about Avengers 2 is Ultron's plan is really stupid. It is such a wonderfully over complicated pointless mess of a plan. This is like Cobra Commander levels of convoluted and complete mismanagement of resources. In other words its a super villain plot

Spoilers ahead, all the warning you get. After I processed the movie for abit I thought about his plan and realized all the more efficient ways he had to kill people. Bioengineered super virus or nerve gas are both well within his ability to make. If he couldn't get the launch codes for nukes there was still nothing stopping him from breaking into a place, physically taking them and having his drones fly them to the target.

Then we get to his actual plan which again was pointless. The energy released from lifting up and slamming a huge chunk of earth into the planet is exactly the same as if you just detonated the fuel source on the ground.

This might sound like nitpicking but actually I love this. His plan wasn't about the most economical or reliable method of murdering humanity. He just really wanted to smash an asteroid into the planet. Thats ok, thats how super villains should be. Because if they aren't like that then writers can't justify them having a volcano lair in the shape of their head and I don't want to live in a world where comic book villains dont have skull fortresses that weep lava

It was rather fitting for someone who got off on just making thousands of new versions of himself for the sake of minor progressions

Magus · 07-24-2015, 07:52 PM

He was about a fraction as threatening as he was in the cartoon I watched (Earth's Mightiest Heroes). At no point did it seem like he was succeeding in his plan.

Aerozord · 07-24-2015, 11:27 PM

Don't take this to mean I approved of this version of Ultron over all. I think I'd have prefered the hyperlogical emotionless Ultron. Just I liked the plan in and of itself. It didn't seem very Ultron-esque, not like something I'd expect a machine obsessed with order and propagation of machines to go with

Bum Bill Bee · 07-25-2015, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

It was rather fitting for someone who got off on just making thousands of new versions of himself for the sake of minor progressions

Why are you talking about Ironman all of a sudden? :P

Bard The 5th LW · 07-25-2015, 03:58 PM

I actually went through half the movie thinking Ultron was voiced by Robert Downey Jr. before my mom recognized him as a dude from The Office.

Arhra · 07-26-2015, 08:33 AM

I don't know, I thought it was refreshing to see a robot who just wasn't all there instead of beep boop kill humans because logic.

Aerozord · 07-26-2015, 11:51 AM

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I don't know, I thought it was refreshing to see a robot who just wasn't all there instead of beep boop kill humans because logic.

The odd thing is I'd have been fine with this if they kept Ultron being based on a human mind (which would obviously be Tony in this case) instead of based on an alien computer.

It was confusing from a screenwriting perspective because they changed two things but either one would have worked if they only did the one option. A very logical machine being logical because its based on an alien design, or being more human because its based on a human mind.

His similarities to Iron Man and almost irrational dislike of him doesn't make any sense given his origin and creation in this movie

07-23-2015, 06:00 PM	#1
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	You know what I loved about Age of Ultron The thing I liked best about Avengers 2 is Ultron's plan is really stupid. It is such a wonderfully over complicated pointless mess of a plan. This is like Cobra Commander levels of convoluted and complete mismanagement of resources. In other words its a super villain plot Spoilers ahead, all the warning you get. After I processed the movie for abit I thought about his plan and realized all the more efficient ways he had to kill people. Bioengineered super virus or nerve gas are both well within his ability to make. If he couldn't get the launch codes for nukes there was still nothing stopping him from breaking into a place, physically taking them and having his drones fly them to the target. Then we get to his actual plan which again was pointless. The energy released from lifting up and slamming a huge chunk of earth into the planet is exactly the same as if you just detonated the fuel source on the ground. This might sound like nitpicking but actually I love this. His plan wasn't about the most economical or reliable method of murdering humanity. He just really wanted to smash an asteroid into the planet. Thats ok, thats how super villains should be. Because if they aren't like that then writers can't justify them having a volcano lair in the shape of their head and I don't want to live in a world where comic book villains dont have skull fortresses that weep lava __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

07-24-2015, 07:52 PM	#5
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	He was about a fraction as threatening as he was in the cartoon I watched (Earth's Mightiest Heroes). At no point did it seem like he was succeeding in his plan. __________________ The Valiant Review

07-24-2015, 11:27 PM	#6
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	Don't take this to mean I approved of this version of Ultron over all. I think I'd have prefered the hyperlogical emotionless Ultron. Just I liked the plan in and of itself. It didn't seem very Ultron-esque, not like something I'd expect a machine obsessed with order and propagation of machines to go with __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

07-26-2015, 08:33 AM	#9
Arhra Ara ara! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Neo Venezia Posts: 5,013	I don't know, I thought it was refreshing to see a robot who just wasn't all there instead of beep boop kill humans because logic. __________________ This post is a good source of Ara ara, ufufu.* *These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This post is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

07-24-2015, 02:00 AM	#2
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	The thing I didnt love about Age of Ultron was the part where the Hulk and Iron Man ~~kill like a million~~ like several thousand people in that one African City and suffer no repercussions ever and dont even seem to feel that bad about it when the movie's finally done.

07-25-2015, 03:58 PM	#8
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	I actually went through half the movie thinking Ultron was voiced by Robert Downey Jr. before my mom recognized him as a dude from The Office.